How To Use Fiscal Stimulus To Stave Off The Next Recession
Odd Lots
Bloomberg
4.5 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 3 February 2020
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
There's a growing consensus that governments need to act more aggressively in using fiscal policy to stave off the next recession, and that monetary policy simply isn't powerful enough. But how do you actually go about it? What do you spend the money on, and how do you get politicians to disburse it in a timely manner? On this week's Odd Lots, we speak with Claudia Sahm, a former Fed economist who is now at the Washington Center for Equitable Growth, on ways to systematize and automate an early and aggressive fiscal response to economic weakness. Sahm has achieved fame for her so-called "Sahm Rule" which can provide policymakers with an early warning sign of when a recession might be brewing.
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| 0:49.0 | So Tracy, you know one of the big things that we've been talking about, maybe a little bit on the podcast, but I would say |
| 0:56.9 | finance media, eco media in general is this idea of the monetary to fiscal handoff. |
| 1:05.0 | Oh yeah, that is the big theme and it's sort of the big thing |
| 1:09.2 | that a lot of people are hanging their hopes on |
| 1:11.4 | for economic growth. |
| 1:12.4 | So the spiel that you've been hearing a lot |
| 1:15.3 | is that monetary policy has failed in various ways |
| 1:18.8 | to lift inflation and to boost economic growth |
| 1:21.8 | in a significant way. And so it is now up to the government |
| 1:26.0 | side to actually enact physical stimulus and do it that way. |
| 1:29.7 | Right, I think there's like a couple things going on. I mean, I think A, there's the fact that people have been pretty disappointed with the pace of growth in the wake of the financial crisis. There's the fact that in much of the developed world, there |
| 1:46.8 | may literally, according to some people, be no further scope for monetary policy as rates |
| 1:52.2 | are more or less pinned at zero, so even if things |
| 1:55.1 | are okay now, there's this expectation that central banks don't have a lot of juice. |
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