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The School of Greatness

How To Turn Suffering Into Purpose, Strength & Healing

The School of Greatness

Lewis Howes

Entrepreneurship, Fitness, Inspiration, Greatness, Health, Money, Celebrity Interview, Self Care, Celebrity, Success, Mental Health, Relationships, Mindset, Health & Fitness, Education, Alternative Health, Business, Self-improvement

4.821.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Caroline Fleck reveals how she transformed 10 years of depression and recent cancer battles into her greatest superpower for healing others. Discover why validation, not just love, creates real connection and how to turn your deepest suffering into service.

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0:00.0

Welcome back, my friend, to another episode of the School of Greatness.

0:03.0

We have the inspiring Stanford psychologist, Dr. Caroline Fleck-on for another episode, talking about the one skill that can instantly transform any relationship, make you feel seen and stop emotional chaos.

0:15.8

And we discuss her own journey through depression and overcoming breast cancer and how that shaped her deep understanding

0:22.4

of what it means to feel seen. This is going to be very powerful for you because we're talking

0:27.8

about why validation is more essential than love for lasting connection and emotional safety.

0:33.5

And if you've ever been in a relationship that you say you love the person and the other person says that they love you, but for some reason, there's just constant chaos, constant stress, up and down, yo, yo, joy and sadness, then you're missing out on this one key element that she talks about, which is validation.

0:51.8

And you're missing out on communicating that validation in a specific way to your partner

0:56.6

or that partner learning, kind of communicated with you so that you feel validated.

1:02.0

It's crazy when you look back and you see what this is really all about.

1:06.9

You say, yeah, I really wanted my partner to do this one thing, but it's just about feeling seen

1:11.5

and validated. And sometimes love is not enough. We need more than just love. You can love someone

1:18.0

and not work out with them because you needed something else. And we talk about also the brain

1:22.6

science behind why feeling seen helps regulate your nervous system. So if you have a nervous system that is constantly

1:29.2

heightened or stressed or anxious or overwhelmed or you have this anxiety, it's because you haven't

1:33.8

really learned how to see yourself and be seen by others. And we're also going to be talking about

1:39.9

the different tools to validate others in conflict, even when you disagree with them.

1:44.7

So much coming from this episode.

1:46.8

I hope you enjoy it.

1:47.6

Make sure to share this with one friend and ask them to give you feedback on say, hey, what,

1:52.3

what did you take away from this?

1:53.4

What did you learn from this?

1:54.2

Let's talk about this and improve together.

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