How To Transition From Soldier to Civilian
How To! with Mike Pesca
Peach Fish Projects
4.3 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 12 December 2023
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
Dan enlisted in the Army in 2003 during the early phase of the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. He just retired after 20 years of service—and is adjusting to myriad challenges of civilian life while also managing PTSD, ADHD and new sobriety. On this episode of How To!, Bob Beard of Arizona State University's Center for Science and the Imagination joins us to talk about a new program that's helping veterans like Dan plan for the distant future using science fiction, conceptual art, and strategies employed by Fortune 500 companies.
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| 0:37.8 | And now of a sudden I've got the freedom and I joke, you know, now I've got to grow up. |
| 0:42.9 | Welcome to how to. I'm Carvel Wallace. You know, transitions are hard. Big moves, career changes, |
| 0:51.4 | the endings of relationships. They all require us to let go of something that |
| 0:55.9 | we've known well and step into an entirely new environment with new rules and new challenges. |
| 1:02.3 | We try to cling to the old ways, but the old ways don't work here, and we haven't yet mastered |
| 1:07.3 | the new ways. So there's this period, like a scary period of time, like a kind of a void, a no-man's |
| 1:14.6 | land where you were no longer in the old state of being, and yet not entirely in the new. |
| 1:19.6 | You feel weightless and unsure, and you don't know what to do. |
| 1:24.6 | Every year, about 200,000 military personnel face this void. Whether they've |
| 1:32.2 | served a single term, or they've made the military their entire career, they now have to move |
| 1:36.6 | into an entirely new world and figure out how to operate. And military life is far different |
| 1:43.4 | from civilian life. In the military, you're provided with food, |
| 1:46.8 | clothing, shelter, structure, jobs, health care, even a sense of duty and purpose. In civilian |
| 1:53.0 | life, let's just say those are things you need to find and keep for yourself, and sometimes |
| 1:58.7 | over significant odds. This can make the transition difficult for a lot of veterans, and sometimes over significant odds. |
| 2:04.9 | This can make the transition difficult for a lot of veterans, and especially those who have experienced combat-related injuries or emotional or psychological trauma. |
| 2:09.9 | Well, that's where today's listener comes in. |
| 2:13.0 | How my name is Dan? |
| 2:13.8 | I'm calling a reference to veterans retiring from the military. So I'm a |
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