This is NPR's Life Kit. I'm very hearty, man. I am the parent of two kids, and there's

something that creeps into my consciousness every time I see another tragedy like the

kind of racist shootings we've seen in El Paso, Christchurch, Buffalo. The criminal

is almost always a young white man. I am raising two young white men. It's a horror,

I think that your kid could be a victim. It's a whole different kind of fear to think

that your kid could be, I almost don't want to say it out loud, a perpetrator, a racist,

a sexist, a bigot. Somebody who could even be susceptible to these ideas. Because we know

where a lot of these ideas come from. They're part of the online world that our kids frequent.

I'm not even talking about the places that openly identify themselves as homes for white

supremacy. I'm talking about roadblocks, YouTube, all the gaming platforms and social media.

And I wanted to talk to someone about it because when it comes to that online world, the

kids are just so facile with it. There's almost no way to get ahead of it. It's hard not

to panic. So I called an expert because I wasn't sure if the way that I was talking about

it with my kids, especially when it comes to the dangers online, was the right way.

Christine Saxman talks to parents and teachers about this stuff all the time. She's been

doing racial and social justice facilitation for about 20 years.

This episode of LifeKit preventing radicalization with white children. Christine will help give

us tips that focus relationships over scare tactics. And I want to say up front to parents

listening, don't panic because what I found was surprisingly empowering.

I should say my kids are an elementary and middle school. And while I know that parents

make different decisions about how much access to technology their kids have, since mine

do have some online access, they're 8 and 11, we started there with some daily anti-radicalization

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