This is Dr. Lisa Marie Bobby and you're listening to the love, happiness, and success podcast.

The band is Stedman. The song is two together. And I thought that was the perfect song for us today because today we're going to be talking about something that I feel is extremely important,

especially right now. And that is how couples can get and stay on the same page about finances. We know that fighting about money is not

only one of the biggest pain points for couples during the best of times, but it's also a type

of fight that is most strongly linked, believe it or not, to rates of divorce. And so

if you want to focus anywhere in your relationship, it is getting on the same page about money

and how we're handling it as a couple and as a family. And I think that this topic is even more timely and important and

necessary for us to talk about right now on the podcast because we have just cranked up the

heat on financial concerns for a lot of couples and families. We have, you know, moved into a perilous time together as a nation, I think. And,

again, money can be a stress point for couples anyway, but now, again, when somebody is facing a job

loss or a reduction in income or even an impending lay layoff or, you know, in the context of an

unstable economy, it's really vital that you guys get on the same page about how you're

going to handle this together so that no matter what happens, financially speaking, your relationship

and your marriage is protected and strong. And so to talk

about this very important topic, I have invited my colleague Megan Terry on the podcast with me

today to share her wisdom with you. Megan and I have worked together for years and years. She is a marriage and family

therapist. You may have heard her on the podcast before talking about other things like

emotional intelligence, how couples handle grief and loss and get through hard times together.

If you scroll back through the podcast and want to hear more Megan, she's there. But I really

wanted to talk with her today because she does an awful lot of not just premarital counseling,

but financial therapy for couples where she's really diving in to get into the nitty-gritty

of how people feel about money. What is the historical context for their

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