Hi, I'm Otto. Welcome to Ellen Sarah's podcast.

So we had Amy Chan on. She is the breakup expert. We had her on almost two years ago. It was one of

our most listened to episodes, most shared episodes. She gives data, guys, data on how to heal a broken

heart, how to move on, how to also what we're doing wrong, how we're picking how to date better.

She's just awesome. She's like open about her own experiences. She had a horrific breakup. She was

suicidal after her breakup and cut to now. She has like friends with that guy. She has moved on

with her life. She turned it into something amazing. She's the founder of Renew breakup boot camp.

Would you have got to look into? I would have gone to that boot camp yet. And she also has a

bestselling book called Boot Breakup Boot Camp. The science of rewiring your heart. Also, guys, she

coaches people. She coaches you on dating. She has some amazing tips of how to like get out of your

daily life. She'll coach you through your dating and then she'll coach you through your breakup.

Well, she's not aiming for a breakup. But yes, if it happens, she'll get you out of bed.

We're not only talking about breakups. We're talking about the relationship episodes. Yes,

we also cover breaking up with your girlfriend, your friend, your platonic friend, friendship

breakups. We talk about, oh, so much. I really, I could have talked to her for three hours and

as usual, Aaron's like, okay, wrap it up. I'm like, wrap it up. I'm just getting started.

Yeah, per usual, every question you ask is about yourself. That's red.

And it's also not true. Coldheart Vax, babe. Coldheart Vax. So, great episode. I'm excited. You guys

are going to love this one. Hi, Amy. Hi, how's it going? Great. How are you?

Good. Nice to see you guys again. It's been a long time coming.

Good news is neither of us have gone through a breakup since the last time we saw you.

Yay. But it turns out many of our listeners have and they really, really got a lot out of the

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