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The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

How to Set Behavioral Goals in the Med Visit

The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast

Pocket Psychiatry: A Carlat Podcast

Health & Fitness, Mental Health, Medicine, Alternative Health

4.8440 Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2023

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Do you see patients who have no motivation to do anything? Michael Posternak has a novel strategy for working with this depressive symptom during the medication visit in this special tribute to the late psychiatrist.CME: Take the CME Post-Test for this Episode (https://thecarlatcmeinstitute.com/mod/quiz/view.php?id=3488)Published On: 07/31/2023Duration: 23 minutes, 07 secondsChris Aiken, MD, and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.

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0:00.0

This month, we lost a true brother in the Carlot family. Michael Posternak was a frequent contributor to the

0:06.5

journal, and he passed unexpectedly on July 3, 2023. He worked up to the very end, turning in his

0:14.2

final piece on binge eating disorder a few days before he died. He leaves behind two children, a loving extended family, and a private

0:22.9

practice filled with patients whose lives were changed by his work. Mike began his career in

0:28.7

academics, working alongside Mark Zimmerman at Brown University School of Medicine. I knew of

0:34.5

his work back then, because even from that ivory tower, he was producing papers that were relevant to everyday practice.

0:42.7

He was the first to show that antidepressants begin to separate from placebo by week two, not after four weeks like the conventional wisdom said at the time.

0:52.7

Later, when the maker of Trintellix tried to use that feat

0:56.0

to claim they had the fastest onset, Mike brought them down a notch. One paper he published in 2005

1:04.1

was unforgettable. The title was Pure Posternak. Why isn't Puproprion the most frequently prescribed antidepressant?

1:14.3

Not the kind of title we're used to seeing in an academic tone like the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry,

1:20.1

but Michael had a passionate voice and a keen eye for where psychiatry was doing a disservice to their patients. In this case, by using

1:29.5

SSRI's first line, medications that caused apathy, sexual dysfunction, sleep problems, weight gain,

1:36.7

and a terrible withdrawal syndrome, instead of buproprion, which caused none of these.

1:42.8

Mike suspected that this was due to marketing, as well as to a myth,

1:47.0

that serotonin calmed anxiety while buproprion did the opposite.

1:52.3

This, as he showed us in that paper, was a misunderstanding, for buproprion is just as effective

1:58.2

at treating depression with anxious features as the SSRIs are.

2:03.2

Buproprion does not treat anxiety disorders, but despite that linguistic overlap,

2:09.0

there is little scientific rationale to say anxiety or phobic disorders are the same as anxious depression.

2:21.5

His paper changed by practice, but we didn't agree on everything. Mike was a contrarian, and we often debated things for the report late

2:27.1

into the night. After a while, I got to realize that he made me a better editor, and I started

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