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How often do you go along to get along or say yes when you really want to say no?

We've all done it, agreed to a volunteer position

that we didn't really have the time for, or held our tongue at the holiday dinner table

to avoid a family fight, or kept quiet at work when speaking up could have helped a colleague

avoid a mistake. Today we're going to talk about the psychology of speaking up and saying no.

Why is that so hard to do? What does it mean to defy, to comply, or to consent? And how can you

strengthen your resolve and ability to say no when the situation calls for it.

Welcome to Speaking of Psychology, the flagship podcast of the American Psychological Association that examines the links between psychological science and everyday life. I'm Kim Mills.

My guest today is Dr. Sunita Sa. Dr. Saugh is an associate professor at Cornell University's

SC Johnson School of Management, where she studies ethics, authority, compliance, and defiance,

including questions such as why we comply with bad advice and how disclosure policies can backfire.

Her research has been published in many academic journals and covered by media outlets,

including the New York Times, the Harvard Business Review and Scientific American.

Her new book is called Defy, the Power of No in a World that Demands Yes.

Dr. Saw, thank you for joining me today.

It's wonderful to be here. Thank you, Kim.

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