When we're young we have an amazing positive outlook about how great life is

going to be. But somewhere along the line we forget to dream and end up

settling. Join up dots features amazing people who refuse to give up and

chose to go after their dreams. This is your blueprint for greatness. So here's

your host, live from the back of his garden in the UK, David Raal.

Yes, hello there, good morning to you and welcome to join up.

Darts, thank you so much for connecting with us. We've got a very small head

but she's got quite big ears and she looks like Dumbo when she goes to bed.

And she wakes up in the morning and her ears kind of like spring back.

And yeah, so it's funny. You know what, on Amazon Prime and Netflix you can put

like a little icon to show who's it. It's always Dumbo. It's always Dumbo.

She's not happy. She's not happy with it. But I you can't do much about

areas. So good morning to you and welcome to join up dots. It's a delight to

have you here as always. Today's show is going to be slightly different

because this is going to be a recording of a podcast that I went on from

red beard media. There's a guy called Brian Keith. And he was on the

join up dots podcast back in episode 64. I think he was back in 2014 early

days, probably within the first couple of months of join up dots.

And then he connected with me and he'd got his own podcast going and he said,

would you like to be on there? And I said, why not? I don't generally go on other

people's podcasts. And we talked about things. We talked about burnout.

We talked about saying no to things, you know, not just accepting every

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