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All right, John T. Bo, welcome to the WoW that's good podcast.

What's up? Thanks for having me.

So excited that you're here. We're so excited.

Christian and I have both been pumped for this interview because your music is some of our favorite.

In fact, when your new album circles just came out literally the second I saw a draw.

I was like, stayed up in my hotel room and listened to every single song. So big, big fan.

Love your music and incredible worship leaders. So seriously, so stoked to have you on.

But I will start this podcast the way I start every podcast on the show with what is the best

piece of advice that you have ever been given? Wow. Just drop it like a tot.

Okay, there's been so many great things. I feel like people have told me over the years. But

just this one came to my head. It was like it was a manager in the industry and they said,

be careful how you treat people going up because they'll be the same people you have to meet

when they're coming up or when you're coming down. So you know, just be careful how you treat

people going up. That's so good. The lower your supposed to be. That's so good. I love that.

Humility is definitely key. I was actually talking to somebody the other day about how so many times

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