Hi everyone, welcome to Add Home with Sally. I'm Sally Clarkson and I have the biggest

privilege in the world to be with so many friends from all over the world who join me every

week to listen to my stories, inspiration, biblical encouragement. And I am just so glad

that you're here today. Thanks so much for joining me.

Hello my friends, I'm coming to you today from New York City. I'm so happy to be here

and guess who I'm visiting. I'm visiting my wonderful son Nathan Clarkson.

I'm visiting Nathan Clarkson and he is also, I'm absolutely thrilled to have his friend.

Joseph Holmes. Joseph Holmes. Now these guys have done an amazing job of putting together

a wonderful podcast called The Overthinkers. And both of them grew up with the idea that

they could think and have opinions and cultivate all sorts of intelligence. And so we thought

it would be fun today to do a podcast together on how to raise deep thinkers. Many of you

are familiar with my, just what my children do, which they're all kind of words people.

And they've written books and music and movies and all sorts of different things. And

people are constantly asking me how did you raise children who think so deeply. So that's

what we're going to talk about today. But I thought I would start out just at the very

beginning to let these guys tell you a little bit about what they're doing, where they

are, and even how you guys came together. Yeah. Well, I'm super excited to talk about

this today. This is Nathan, her son, Nathan Clarkson, Sally Clarkson's son. But are you

her son? I am. Yes. But I'm excited to talk about this because in our family dynamic,

thinking and wrestling with big thoughts and big questions was such a part of our, our

family culture. Yes. And it's something that has so influenced my adulthood and what

I've done with my life and my writing and my movie making and my acting. And it's been

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