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How To! with Mike Pesca

How To Quiet the Chatter in Your Head

How To! with Mike Pesca

Peach Fish Projects

Education, How To

4.32K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2021

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Emilia can't stop thinking about a long-ago love affair with Ivan, a man she met in Mexico in her early 20s and dated for several years. Now, a decade later, Emilia is newly married, but thoughts of her time with Ivan pop into her mind daily, a fact she's never shared with her husband. On this episode of How To!, we bring on Ethan Kross, a psychology professor at the University of Michigan and the author of Chatter: The Voice In Our Head, Why It Matters, and How To Harness It. Whether thinking about a past experience or worrying about the present, we all get stuck in negative cycles of thought, and Ethan has the tools to help us form a better relationship with our thoughts.

If you liked this episode, check out "How To Fall Out of Love."

Do you have a problem you can't get out of your head? Send us a note at howto@slate.com or leave us a voicemail at 646-495-4001 and we might have you on the show.

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0:00.0

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0:30.6

It was just one of those nights that I can't even really remember.

0:34.1

But I woke up the next morning thinking, wow, that was the best night of my life.

0:42.0

Welcome to how to. I'm David Epstein. That voice you just heard, that was Amelia. And she was talking

0:48.7

about an unforgettable night from 11 years ago when she was just 19 years old. She was on college break visiting her cousin in a small town in Mexico

0:57.3

when they decided to go out for drinks with friends.

1:00.6

One of the men there was this guy who was just absolutely gorgeous

1:05.9

and right away I kind of was like, wow.

1:16.6

This absolutely gorgeous man was named Yvonne, and the chemistry was instant. But after a week, Amelia had to go back to college in New York, so she and Yvonne began a passionate

1:21.2

relationship online.

1:22.9

Yvonne was eight years older than Amelia and thousands of miles away, but that didn't matter.

1:31.5

When spring break came around, she returned to Mexico as fast as she could.

1:35.6

It sounds like you got swept off your feet a little bit.

1:41.6

Yeah, so he was very well off, and he had all the friends.

1:43.7

Like, throughout the day, someone was calling him.

1:44.6

Basically, he's the most interesting man in the world exactly and he's gorgeous like perfect brown skin tight black curls

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