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Care and Feeding | Slate's parenting show

How To Navigate Strained Relationships Around the Holidays

Care and Feeding | Slate's parenting show

Slate Podcasts

Society & Culture, Kids & Family, Parenting

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

On this episode: Lucy Lopez, Elizabeth Newcamp, and Zak Rosen are joined by mother-daughter writing team Leslie and Lindsey Glass. They share their estrangement and reconnection that led to their book The Mother Daughter Relationship Makeover. They give advice for how to deal with toxic personalities around the dinner table and at parties, talk about when estrangement might be the answer, and more. But first, they share their latest Triumphs and Fails. Lucy has an explosion (literally), Elizabeth is in a new country, and Zak learns the local bus routes. This podcast is produced by Rosemary Belson and Cheyna Roth.  Join us on Facebook and email us at [email protected] to ask us new questions, tell us what you thought of today’s show, and give us ideas about what we should talk about in future episodes. You can also call our phone line: (646) 357-9318. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get to hang out with us on the Plus Playground every week for a whole additional grab-bag of content — and you’ll get an ad-free experience across the network. And you’ll also be supporting the work we do here on Care and Feeding. Sign up now at slate.com/careplus – or try it out on Apple Podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

This episode may contain explicit language.

0:09.0

Hey, welcome to Karen Feeding.

0:11.0

We're here to talk about the ups, the downs, and everything in between when it comes to parenting.

0:16.1

I'm Lucy Lopez.

0:17.4

I host another podcast, the Mamacita Rica, a mother to Amelia who who's 15, and Avery, who's 12, and we live in Miami, Florida. I'm Zach Rosen. I make another podcast. It's called Weirdly Helpful. I am Dad to Noah, who's 8, and Ami, who's 5. We live in Detroit. I'm Elizabeth Newkamp. I write the homeschool and family travel blog, Dutch Dutch, Dutch I'm the mom to Henry who's 13, Oliver who's 11, and Teddy who's 9.

0:41.8

And I'm currently in Delft, the Netherlands.

0:45.4

So every week, we answer your questions.

0:48.1

We share our own parenting triumphs and fails.

0:50.4

And try to make this feel like the kind of conversations you're just having with your friends.

0:55.7

And today we're talking mother-daughter relationships. We've got Leslie and Lindsay Glass,

1:00.7

authors of the book Mother-daughter Relationship Makeover. But first, we're going to share our

1:06.3

triumphs and fails. Lucy, can you give us a little hint about yours this week? I would love to. I had to call

1:13.5

911, not once, but twice since we last spoke. Oh my God. Oh, boy. So stick around. We'll be right

1:24.8

back. right back.

1:33.1

Welcome back. It's time for Triumphs and Fails.

1:37.5

Zach, do you have a triumph, a fail? What's going on?

1:42.0

I'm going to take a tea. This is a family tea, family triumph.

1:48.4

As you know, I was in a bike accident recently, and up to that point, I was biking everywhere.

1:53.2

Shira was biking everywhere, and we kind of made a commitment after we moved home from Amsterdam to just be on the bike as much as we can and be in the car as little as possible.

1:58.9

So my injury has sidelined me to where I have to now drive for at least another

2:05.2

month or two.

2:07.7

But Shira either bikes or takes the bus to work now every day.

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