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But welcome to this episode. Garrison. Master, Pastor, Revkev. Kevin Love.

Never heard Revkem before, but I like it.

That's a new one.

Normally, Caleb.

K love, but I don't like the radio station,

radio station kind of,

threw that one off.

So Kevin, we've been talking about, and I think it has been a really good conversation, but we've been talking about

how do you get a business going, how do you make money is what we're going to be talking about today.

These things all kind of go together.

But as we were preparing for this show,

it reminded me of something that Dale Partridge had actually told me

in a podcast where he said,

you know, because I asked him, I said, what a Christian struggle with?

Like what is the need of the hour in the church?

And he said, you know, he gave kind of some of the answers that we, you know, I've heard before in the church.

And then he said, you know, can I just be honestly? that we've heard before in the church.

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