Welcome to Conversations with John and Lisa. I am Lisa and I'm so excited about today's

episode. We're doing something a little different. Many of us are having the right conversations

but with the wrong people. And so I've actually gathered some of the amazing people that I

wanted to have conversations with and we are going to invite you into this and we're going

to be talking about this whole idea of Adam and so I actually want to gather the right people

to get the right conversations going and we're so excited. We're going to have some guests.

We're going to be featuring people that we think are Adam and passionate. Recently I hosted

several different conversations with top leaders who are tackling some very difficult subjects.

And today I'm going to share the conversation I had with Dr. Preston Sprinkle. I believe that

this will bless you and encourage you as you remain adamant in your pursuit of truth.

I'm just so excited to have you with me on this podcast press and I feel like I know you even

that we've never met face to face. That's right. I feel the same way. I forget what we have

met face to face. Thanks so much for having me on me. I'm excited about this. Absolutely. And you know

I've got your very impressive bio in front of me but can you just kind of tell us a little bit

Oh you know I'm a wannabe surfer. I actually did. So I grew up in California, central California,

longing and just jealous of people that lived on the coast. It wasn't until I was 32 years old

that actually lived close enough to the beach to surf. So there's about a five-year period of my life

as a mid-30s something when I started surfing but that's not a good time to start surfing.

So I think so. I think so. Yeah that's right. I surf for the first time when I was 40.

So you were ahead of me at iPhone, love with it. I love surfing. So much fun. So yeah so I'm

back. Yeah so I'm about 40 years old for much of my life. I've either been in education,

like theological education or teaching at an academic school. Up until I just realized it was a

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