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I've lived in a few different cities and each one seems to have its own rules, you know, its own way of functioning.

Mm. I grew up in a city dominated by cars, which is pretty different from a walkable city.

Oftentimes what you find is when you're in a walking city, you do have a different experience of what it means to actually walk among people

and you're not just in your car, isolated, listening to the radio or whatever, and you're actually

kind of face to face with people, but you're also trying to be polite and not

stare and not make too much eye contact but you know if someone does make

passing eye contact with you you have a a little smile.

There's all those little things that you're trying to figure out and navigate which is different than city car culture.

Oh, it's so interesting thinking about the differences too between a walkable city like you said or a car city and the way those different infrastructures really do affect the cultural codes between people and the ways that we interact with each other.

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Megan, do you ever feel like you're just actually living online?

Oh, say more about that.

I work from home, so a lot of my work relationships, they happen online through Zoom, through

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