You're going to. Welcome to the Seth Grouber Show today. We have in person in studio at

Pastor Allen Jackson's Church World Outreach Church, the one the only Frank Turrick.

You guys ever heard the name Francis Schaefer? Well if they had internet and video back in

Francis Schaefer's day, his name would be Frank Turick.

Frank Turick, the CEO and founder of Cross-examined.

You've probably seen his viral clips

talking to students on university campuses,

as they call him, a bigget, a homophobe, whatever the name is because he believes in the scriptures

and he can actually articulate a Christian worldview and vision that is large enough to combat and provide answers against the

secular society in our post-Christian culture that's actually very

religious it's called Neopaganism or

humanism or Darwinism or neo-Malthusianism or Hillary Clintonism call

whatever you want. All the same thing. We're here at World Outreach Church

for the Culture and Christianity Conference and I couldn't help us sit down with studs like Frank Turrick

welcome to the show today brother. Seth it is my pleasure to be here and for those

you that don't know Seth just did in a very electric presentation here at the Culture and

Christianity conference. Is that going to be available somewhere? I hope? I hope so.

Yeah. I mean I because I want people to hear your talk bro and that's why that's why you're on the show today

bro I've been I've been reading your books I don't have enough faith to be an atheist

stealing from God which I want to ask you about because a lot of people don't understand what that means and it's frankly

brilliant. But we just rebranded my podcast from unabordered to the Seth Gruber show because I feel

like God's given me clarity into how this culture of death operates and I wasn't able to just stay in the

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