How To Keep Cool in a Crisis
How To! with Mike Pesca
Peach Fish Projects
4.3 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 12 October 2021
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
Last week we learned how to stop a public fight before it starts. But despite our best intentions, ugly confrontations still happen—sometimes with tragic consequences. On this episode of How To!, the second in a two part-series, Dan Christensen, a bus driver in Portland, Oregon, and Matt Smith, a crisis intervention trainer and the co-founder of Aegis Training Solutions, are back to teach you what to do when a fight is already underway. Dan talks about his experience with the 2017 Portland train attack that left two people dead. How do you stay safe? What is your responsibility to those around you? In short, how can you be a better bystander?
If you liked this episode, check out: "How To Have a Fight That Actually Helps Your Relationship."
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| 0:43.8 | You're listening to How To. I'm Amanda Ripley. Back in May of 2017, something terrible happened on a |
| 0:51.2 | crowded train in Portland, Oregon. It all started when a self-described white |
| 0:56.0 | nationalist named Jeremy Christian started ranting and raving. Police say he shouted racist, |
| 1:02.2 | anti-Muslim slurs at a 17-year-old Somali girl who was wearing a hijab and her friend, a 16-year-old |
| 1:08.8 | black girl. Frightened, the girls moved to the back of the train car, |
| 1:12.5 | and three other men tried to de-escalate the situation. |
| 1:16.4 | One told Christian in a loud voice, |
| 1:18.5 | you need to get off this train. |
| 1:20.6 | Christian shoved a man, and then the man shoved him back, |
| 1:23.5 | and everyone started screaming. |
| 1:28.0 | According to a witness, Christian said, |
| 1:30.8 | Touch me again, and I'm going to kill you. |
| 1:34.3 | Christian then fatally stabbed two of the men and injured the third. |
| 1:41.9 | Last year, Christian was sentenced to two life terms in prison. |
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