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My mom was just here visiting and I was asking her, like, does the world feel especially

like to be a heartbroken place? I feel so heartbroken about so many pieces of what's happening right now, and especially in the last months.

It has been really hard to be able to hold, you know, the joy of my child's 10th birthday and reading the news of the day and feeling so heartbroken for what's happening.

Welcome to how to. I'm Courtney Martin. and reading the news of the day and feeling so heartbroken for what's happening.

Welcome to how to. I'm Courtney Martin.

I'm interested in this moment that we're facing in public life. There's something about the last few months that have felt like getting hit by a semi-truck of devastating news.

And we really don't know how to respond. This is the kind of

stuff that goes through my head. Maybe it goes through your head. First of all, if you express sadness

over one tragedy, does it mean you're neglecting another simultaneous one? And if you repost a reflection

from someone on one side of an issue, does that mean you've suddenly like taken sides, full stop?

How can you speak up when truth be told you don't know as much as you'd like to about an issue? That happens to me a lot. And what about just going through the everyday, you know, functions of life? I find myself trying to send an email and then I think, like, oh, should I put a preamble that says, the world is burning, but like, can you send me that file you owe me?

I don't know. send an email and then I think like, oh, should I put a preamble that says, the world is burning,

but like, can you send me that file you owe me?

I don't know, guys.

The overwhelm is real.

We can't tune the world out, which means we need to figure out how the hell to be a person in it.

And when I struggle with how to be a person, what I do is talk to my friends. One such friend is Jen

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