How To!: I Never Thought Of It That Way: How To Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times
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3.8 • 546 Ratings
🗓️ 25 October 2022
⏱️ 37 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You know, there's a desire to connect and we do have opinions and want to talk about the world. |
| 0:06.3 | And yet we can't do it in a way that doesn't end up with yelling, hanging up, you know, |
| 0:11.6 | swearing the other person off or overall just feeling crappy and feeling, I mean, angry |
| 0:18.6 | is one thing, but also just sad. |
| 0:20.1 | I think disappointed that we can't find a way to talk about this. |
| 0:24.6 | Welcome to how to. |
| 0:26.2 | I'm Amanda Ripley. |
| 0:28.6 | I don't know about the rest of you, but sometimes you get pretty annoying when I get |
| 0:32.4 | added to a big group chat or email chain and my phone just started blowing up with |
| 0:36.7 | memes and forwards and jokes. |
| 0:39.6 | But for our guest this week, that sound fills them with an extra dose of dread. |
| 0:44.7 | I have a family situation, a pickle, you might say, that I'm hoping y'all can help us out with |
| 0:50.7 | today that deals with political emails and fathers. |
| 0:56.1 | That's Jen Brandel. She's a friend of mine who I've worked with on a couple different projects. |
| 1:00.7 | She's also a journalist from Chicago who co-founded Harkin, a company that helps organizations |
| 1:06.2 | listen and connect better with their audiences, which is to say, Jen is a pro at communicating, |
| 1:12.4 | one of the best I know, which is why it is so frustrating to her that she and her brother Todd |
| 1:17.9 | get these email forwards from their dad that leave them occasionally baffled and frequently |
| 1:23.7 | fuming. Hi, I'm Todd. I'm 45 years old, married with a daughter. |
| 1:29.3 | I mean software development and very much have strong political opinions and find myself |
| 1:35.3 | getting into passionate and dispassionate arguments with family and friends all the time. |
| 1:41.3 | Overall, Jen and Todd describe their family as pretty tight-knit. |
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