Hi there, I'm Chris Duffy, host of How to Be a Better Human, another TED podcast.

Most of us want to be better, but we're not quite sure where to begin, and our show is here to help.

On our podcast, you'll hear from guests and TED speakers who might just make you a better human,

from standing up for what you believe in to challenging conventional wisdom, embracing rejection,

or finding gratitude every day, our show is your guide to becoming a little less terrible.

Not that you're terrible right now, I think you're great, but on something me become a little less

terrible and maybe you'll pick up something along the way. You can find How to Be a Better Human

wherever you're listening to this. Hey everyone, welcome back to rethinking.

I recorded today's conversation for another podcast I sometimes co-host, The Next Big Idea,

presented by LinkedIn. My guest is World Debate Champion, Bo Sio, who might just challenge you to

rethink how to have a good argument. Bo, such a treat to finally meet you. Such a pleasure,

such a pleasure. I feel like we've known each other a while now. I thought good arguments was

exceptionally insightful and I learned so much from it. I was actually a little bit disappointed

that I didn't read it before writing Think Again because I could have rethought a lot of the

debate chapter in light of what I learned from your expertise. I mean, the same is true for me,

except I had the benefit of going after you. I think I told you that reading that book changed

my view of what this book could be and just the generosity and attention you've shown to the

community and thinking about how its lessons could translate more broadly. That was really

instructive for me. Well, honored and I just learned a ton from your book and I'm excited to

be able to both dig into some of the greatest hits but then also expand beyond them with some

things I'm curious about. The place I have to start is you're the World Debate Champion.

How did you become that? I want to hear the story.

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