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Life and Art from FT Weekend

How to have a good death

Life and Art from FT Weekend

Forhecz Topher

Tv & Film, Arts, Society & Culture

4.6601 Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2023

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

This week, we consider what it means to have a good death. As nursing strikes escalate throughout the UK and Ireland, the writer Imogen Savage couldn't help but think of her mother Anne, who spent more than 45 years working in end of life care. Imogen spent her childhood watching Anne help people die comfortably and with dignity. Today, we speak with them both about what they've learned about death, and why we shouldn’t cut corners when it comes to caring for the dying.

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Links:

– Imogen’s article about her mother: https://on.ft.com/426JTED 

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Original music by Metaphor Music. Mixing and sound design by Breen Turner and Sam Giovinco. 


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0:00.0

I recently talked to someone who has devoted her entire life to helping people die.

0:07.0

Her name is Anne Coker.

0:09.6

Anne, can I ask, what does it mean to have a beautiful death?

0:15.0

Well, first of all, physically, getting the balance of somebody being pain free, having relatives if possible,

0:26.6

and for no distress to come to them during the process.

0:32.1

Anne retired recently after more than 45 years as a palliative care nurse.

0:38.4

Her career has spanned 10 nursing homes and hospices across the UK.

0:44.0

She's a pro.

0:45.6

Anne's daughter, Imogen Savage, recently wrote a very moving piece about her mother for the

0:50.5

F.T. Weekend magazine.

0:52.2

She's been watching her mother throughout her life.

0:55.6

Imogen, what do you remember seeing and hearing about your mother's work when you were growing up?

1:01.4

I mean, I had the sense that you had this like real front row seat to the world of aging and

1:07.3

death that like few of us ever have, much less young people.

1:13.7

Yeah.

1:14.3

It was a kind of privileged position.

1:17.6

I remember just as a child going into these homes, it was always feeling a bit uncomfortable

1:22.2

because it's not a kind of form of communication that you learn.

1:26.2

You feel that you need to

1:28.2

to communicate in a different way and you don't you're never taught how to do that and what is

1:34.8

that form of communication what i think it's just it's it's much less verbal

1:39.3

you have to kind of present yourself as somebody who is without a guard, who's not threatening.

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