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Factually! with Adam Conover

How to Grow from Trauma with Dr. Edith Shiro

Factually! with Adam Conover

Headgum

Comedy

4.42.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2024

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

The conversation about trauma is everywhere, and it seems like our culture is finally grappling with the concept openly. But here's the thing: if we don't get what trauma really is, on a psychological or biological level, it can be hard move past it. In this episode, Adam sits down with Dr. Edith Shiro, the author of The Unexpected Gift of Trauma: The Path to Posttraumatic Growth, to talk about what trauma truly means, the misconceptions around it, and the tools required to grow from it. Find Edith's book at factuallypod.com/books

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0:00.0

This is a headgum podcast. I don't know what to think I don't know what to say

0:16.0

and that's all right that's okay

0:21.0

I don't know anything.

0:25.0

Hello and welcome to factually. I'm Adam Conover. Thank you so much for joining me on the show again.

0:31.0

You know, trauma seems like it's the word of the moment doesn't it?

0:34.9

And it's not hard to see why. I mean between the climate crisis, the war in Gaza,

0:40.0

the pandemic, Black Lives Matter, Me Too, Rising Fascism, and more. Trauma is everywhere, not to mention the personal traumatic experiences that many of us have had in our lives.

0:52.0

It seems like we're grappling openly for the first... that many of us have had in our lives.

0:52.5

It seems like we're grappling openly

0:54.6

for the first time with the concept of trauma

0:57.1

as a culture.

0:58.5

There's a desire now, maybe even a need

1:01.0

to finally acknowledge the vulnerability that we share as humans.

1:05.2

And that's powerful. The concept of trauma

1:07.6

validates the impact of interpersonal and societal harms and the effect that they have on us.

1:13.4

It provides us a framework for understanding them.

1:16.1

The shape of this conversation feels new and necessary,

1:19.4

and that is really cool, but, you know, just like anything in our culture, the conversation can get ahead of reality a little bit in ways that can get confusing.

1:28.0

If you pop up in Tik-Toc, you'll see thousands of teens trained in therapy speak talking about how everything from

1:34.3

sleeping too much to getting hungry is a trauma response and you know if everything

1:39.6

is trauma then nothing is so what is trauma really? Well on the show this week we're

1:46.6

going to take a step back and get a deeper understanding of trauma and what it

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