Hi, I'm Otto. I want to answer this podcast.

I think I'm obsessed with Adam Alter. I think I think you're going to be obsessed

at Adam Alter. Not appropriate to even say that. No, I think the listeners are going to be

obsessed with Adam Alter. No, I agree. Okay, so he is a professor of marketing at New York

University Stern School of Business and the New York Times best-selling author of three

books, including his latest, which is called Anatomy of a Breakthrough. Yeah, and we talk a lot

about how we all get stuck in our lives and how to get unstuck, talk about failure, and we talk

about dealing with, you know, the unexpected ups and downs of life and just like how to not let

those things stick you in one spot without being able to pull out of it. I think this episode will

be a little unstick-yeah. Yeah, really with us. It's going to, it's going to unstick you. I think

you're going to listen and you're going to walk away and you're going to go, I'm going to get up

and I'm going to go do something. I'm going to go make a shift. Yes, I'm going to be out of bed.

Let's just one small step. Okay. All right, enjoy the episode.

Hi, Adam. Hi, Adam. How are you? Good. How are you?

Good. Thank you. Good. I'm Aaron. We don't know each other. So I figured you should,

you should be able to distinguish us from one another. Are we doing intros right away,

right off the bat? Well, so he knows who's talking to. I'm Aaron.

I'm Aaron. You can always, I'm Sarah. You could always tell when we have people of your stature

on the podcast. This is a real stature. Someone with a real education. Okay, fair enough,

fair enough. I'll take it. I'll take it. That's very kind. We have CEOs and founders of

Fortune 500 companies. I usually, you know, I have like a different tone in my voice and

be a professor. There's a little different tone. And then when we have, but you did wear a hoodie

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