Welcome to the Psychiatry and Psychotherapy Podcast. The podcast to help you in your journey

towards becoming a wise, empathic, genuine and connected mental health professional.

I'm your host, Dr. David Puder, a psychiatrist who splits his time practicing psychopharmacology,

individual and group psychotherapy, medical director of a day treatment program,

medical education research, and teaching residents and medical students.

Okay, so welcome back to the podcast. I am here today with Ginger Simon Tan, a PhD candidate,

mother of five, and I was just talking to one of our former patients today,

and I said, who did you most connect with in the men program? And the patient said Ginger.

And so Ginger is on this program because she is a truly excellent therapist.

And, you know, not, I think a lot of times you'll, on podcasts,

they'll interview people over it in books and stuff, and that's great. We'll do that.

But I think it's also really good to interview people who are unknown,

because they're just good therapists doing good work. And I have the chance to run a program.

And Ginger is a part of that. It's a program for people with medical issues and psychiatric issues.

And so you know, I'll show up one day, or a couple days a week,

and see the patients once a week, but she's in the trenches there,

three, four days a week with the patients, seeing them, seeing their families.

And I really appreciate that. So Ginger, welcome to the show.

Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Puder. It's good to be with you.

So today, I want to zoom in on what it means to be congruent.

And I think that this episode will be helpful for both providers,

a psychiatrist or a therapist. And I think it'll also be helpful for people.

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