How to Find the Main Conclusion in LR (Ep. 408)
Thinking LSAT
Nathan Fox and Ben Olson
4.8 • 868 Ratings
🗓️ 26 June 2023
⏱️ 80 minutes
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Summary
To succeed in LSAT Logical Reasoning, you must learn to identify conclusions. On this week’s podcast, Ben and Nathan respond to Ask Button questions from students who struggled to distinguish conclusions from premises. The guys suggest three ways to find the main conclusion of an argument. Later, Ben and Nathan discuss how to apply Reading Comprehension skills to Logical Reasoning. They evaluate some dubious strategies for comparative passages in RC. And they answer a grab bag of admissions-related questions.
0:56 - Identifying Conclusions and Premises -
Nathan and Ben demonstrate how to identify argument parts on two practice questions:
The guys discuss why it’s dangerous to rely on keywords alone and suggest three ways to spot conclusions in Logical Reasoning.
41:16 - Good at RC, Bad at LR - Reading Comprehension has always come naturally to listener Zachary, but he struggles with Logical Reasoning. Ben and Nathan suspect that Zachary isn’t reading arguments carefully enough. They encourage Zachary to find ways to treat LR like RC.
48:23 - Comparative Passages - The guys shoot down some bad strategies for comparative passages in Reading Comprehension.
55:50 - Make Time for the LSAT - Listener Chance asks for study tips for students whose busy schedules allow them to listen to lessons only while driving. Nathan and Ben remind Chance that some of his competitors find time to study consistently despite keeping even busier schedules. One high-quality hour a day is all you need.
1:01:59 - LSAC GPA vs. Transcript GPA - Ben and Nathan explain the difference between the GPA on your transcript and the GPA that LSAC reports to law schools.
1:04:10 - Legal Woes in Personal Statements - Nathan and Ben discourage an anonymous listener from writing about their past arrest in their personal statement. They advise Anonymous to relegate the topic to a character and fitness addendum and to treat their personal statement as their sales pitch.
1:11:14 - LOR Access Waiver - The guys advise listener Christian to waive his right to access his letters of recommendation. They warn Christian that if he feels the need to review his LORs, then he’s requesting them from the wrong people.
1:13:20 - From Lassos to Law School - Listener Jake asks whether law schools will appreciate his work history as a professional cowboy. Ben and Nathan discuss how Jake can make the most of his personal brand on his applications, but they remind him that soft factors are ultimately less important than LSAT and GPA.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to episode 408 from the Thinking Elsea podcast. I'm Ben Olson. With me is Nathan Fox. We're the co-founders of Elsat Demon.com and the Elsat Demon Daily |
| 0:19.2 | podcast. If you want to be Elsat Famous, you can share news and ask questions on our website. |
| 0:24.4 | That's thinking El-Sat.com. We have a free class coming up. I'll be teaching it. That's on Monday, |
| 0:30.0 | July 10th at 10 a.m. Pacific, 1 p.m. Eastern. I will be doing reading comp. You can sign up for that at |
| 0:36.2 | Elsat. link forward slash slash forward slash |
| 0:40.7 | forward slash Ben. Yeah, it's free. All you need is a demon free account. Come and learn how we do |
| 0:45.6 | reading comp here at the demon, which I think is exponentially superior to other approaches that |
| 0:51.1 | we've seen out there. but come judge for yourself. |
| 0:55.0 | Cool. |
| 0:56.0 | Yeah, so let's jump in here. |
| 0:59.0 | Abigail, team member Abigail sent in several asked button questions where students had misidentified the conclusion in a logical reasoning passage. |
| 1:09.0 | So I think what we're going to go ahead and do here is we're going to go ahead and do this first question. |
| 1:14.5 | We have two questions. We'll do the first one and then, so you understand what's going on in this question, |
| 1:20.1 | you can hear how we would answer it. and then we'll go ahead and read the |
| 1:23.4 | students question and see if we can add some clarification and then do the same |
| 1:27.4 | thing for the next question. Should point out that these questions are |
| 1:31.7 | freely available if you have an Alsat Demon free account |
| 1:35.1 | and full written explanations, video explanations, |
| 1:40.6 | all kinds of good stuff that you can work on. |
| 1:44.0 | I would say that I think you can probably study |
| 1:47.0 | productively for at least a couple weeks just using the resources |
| 1:51.0 | that are already available for free. |
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