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How to Figure Out Whether a Crypto Token Is Worth Its Trading Price - Ep. 667

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2024

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

The problem of low float, high fully diluted valuation (FDV) coins is one that is frequently discussed in crypto. But there’s another wrinkle: investors need to understand the unrealized gains of these coins to really understand the price. In this episode, Jose Macedo of Delphi Digital and Ari Paul of Blocktower Capital explain the various metrics that reveal what a coin is really worth, why a wave of token unlocks that will be hitting the crypto markets in the next few years are not bullish, and whether there is a better way to design token unlocks for teams and insiders. Plus, they cover whether venture capitalists are extractive to crypto, whether these games with circulating supply and FDV have caused investors to turn to memecoins, and why they believe the ICO era was better for retail investors. Show highlights: 00:00 Intro 01:58 Why upcoming token unlocks are creating market jitters 10:22 How the ratio of unrealized gains to market cap influences token price movements 12:22 How some token projects manipulate their reported circulating supply 20:24 Whether and how everyday investors can uncover the truth about token projects 23:37 What secondary market trading says about the potential impact of upcoming token unlocks 34:50 Why Jose believes that the current token launch strategy, despite its flaws, is still favored by insiders and unlikely to change soon 41:02 Why some projects favor decisions that are more likely to result in short-term gains over long-term success 46:36 Why Jose believes that simple time-based token unlocks often work better than complex metrics, and how projects can balance funding with realistic success metrics 53:04 Why Ari believes the SEC's investigations into VCs for acting as securities dealers might be justified, and how these practices resemble pump-and-dump schemes 59:11 With numerous token unlocks looming, why the outlook is bearish for many projects, and what challenges they face in mitigating potential sell-offs 1:05:52 Why many crypto investors might end up holding the bag in the current cycle, despite plans to sell early and avoid losses 1:12:27 What the future role of VCs is in crypto, and how the influx of token unlocks and the rise of memecoins could shape the bull cycle Visit our website for breaking news, analysis, op-eds, articles to learn about crypto, and much more: unchainedcrypto.com Thank you to our sponsors! Polkadot Guests: Jose Macedo, founder at Delphi Labs Ari Paul, CIO of Blocktower Capital Previous appearances on Unchained: Ari Paul on Why Bitcoin Is a Good Value Buy Ari Paul of BlockTower Capital on the Crypto Downturn and Why It Could Change Direction Links High FDV and unlocks: Unchained: How ‘Fully Diluted Valuation’ Can Be a Very Dangerous Metric for Crypto Markets to Rely On Who’s to Blame for the Underperformance of Low Float, High FDV Tokens? 80% of Tokens on Binance Are Down Since Listing Date: SwissBorg Researcher Cobie newsletter: New launches (part 1) - private capture, phantom pricing Rocknblock: Token vesting explainer CoinDesk: 'Liquid Vesting' Is Oxymoronic Blockchain Feature That Lets Early Investors Sell Without Waiting Jose’s thread that inspired the episode Ari’s post responding to Jose’s thread Token.unlocks.app: Token vesting tracker Solutions: Hack VC: Potential Solutions to Crypto's Unlock Problem Colony Lab: Early-Stage Program & Liquid Vesting Imran Khan’s tweet on Blast https://x.com/lmrankhan/status/1806040646433522149 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

In the modern air drop meta it's just like civil farmers and like hyper sophisticated people who are looking to to just civil farm and then dump your token right and it's just a silly way to distribute your token like it's it's what we have because the

0:14.7

SEC it's funny like everything the SEC did made it worse for retail like made

0:19.6

everything worse for retail you know like air drops isn't like moving everyone to this

0:24.7

air drop met as an example right I mean I'm not I don't need to harp on that I think

0:28.3

everyone knows knows that and wait but just to make clear so does that mean that you

0:32.3

think I COs were a better mechanism?

0:35.3

Definitely yeah I think I think that was definitely a better mechanism because I mean it was like it wasn't better for us as venture investors

0:42.4

but I think it's better for the industry as a whole because you know it's very easy to look at the data and you see that the upside in these projects once the SEC came in and banned ICOs just moved private like you have the same level of upside and the new all ones are similar,

0:56.4

and the new all ones to the old ones, but the upside was all captured by venture investors

1:00.6

rather than the public. Hi everyone, welcome to Unchained, you're a no-high resource for all things crypto.

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I'm your host Laura Shin, author of The Cryptopians.

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I started covering crypto nine years ago and as a senior editor of Forbes was the first major meter

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