What's going on everyone? Welcome back to the Epic Gardening Podcast. Kevin is

Spiritu here. Brandon Youst is back on the show. He's the founder of

Bootstrap Farmer and the Urban Farm Academy. We've had a pretty the how do farm without a farm how is that even a possible thing Brandon?

Well you know at the Urban Farm Academy work sort of looking into the future and not

just the future but today you know sort of like

readjusting to what the world we live in today and not thinking about how

farming was 10 or 20 years ago and as an urban farmer farmer, technology allows us to do all kinds of things.

So automation and small growing spaces opens up a lot of possibilities to start farm businesses as service points.

So just think of, you know, we talked about Seed to Shaker the other day.

Instead of making the drinks yourself, what if you were servicing a vertical rack inside of a bar that needed those herbs to cut but didn't want to maintenance the rack, didn't want to do any of those things, you'd be technically managing a micro farm inside of a restaurant or a bar.

So you're farming without a farm and that's how simple it could be.

Another way to do it, and a good example is Piper, someone who works with Bootstrap, also a good friend of ours and has her own company called Urban Dirt Company, and she manages chef gardens.

So there's braise bed gardens outside of restaurants

that she manages for chefs.

And they cut a little bit from them

and she tells them what they can or can't harm this week to week and she goes out there and manages them.

So she's got farms all over Dallas, but she doesn't own any of them.

She just collects monthly fees for managing them and so that's been a good business for her.

So no land needed, you know all the materials were paid up front with the contract she signed.

So talking about not needing any money to start a business,

I mean, that's another kind of a bootstrapping approach.

Yeah, yeah, it makes total sense.

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