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How To! with Mike Pesca

How To Fall Out of Love (Encore)

How To! with Mike Pesca

Peach Fish Projects

Education, How To

4.32K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2024

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Several months ago, Sarah told her best friend John she's in love with him—but he doesn't love her back. Now Sarah can't get John out of her head, especially because they still talk all the time. How can Sarah move on from John? On this episode of How To!, we bring on Helen Fisher, a biological anthropologist and the author of Anatomy of Love, to help Sarah train her heart—and her brain—to fall out of love. The first thing Sarah needs to do, Helen says, is cut off contact with John. Every time she sees him, it reactivates her brain circuitry for romantic love. And as beautiful as their friendship may be, it's holding Sarah back from finding her true love.

If you liked this episode, check out "How To Propose (to a Man)."

Do you have a problem in your love life? Send us a note at howto@slate.com or leave us a voicemail at 646-495-4001 and we might have you on the show.

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0:00.0

Hi everyone, I'm Susie Weiss, and I've noticed there's just simply not enough podcasts in the world. So I'm launching my own. Let's go. Let's go, baby. Second Thought is a weekly show about pop culture. The stuff everyone's been binging, arguing about, obsessing over. Here's the thing about heated rivalry. I mean, even the most devoted swifties, I think we can agree, not our best work. We'll be hosting thoughtful conversations with culture's most important figures. Talk about genius.

0:22.6

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0:23.7

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0:24.8

on April 17th with a first guest you won't want to miss. Available wherever you get your podcasts.

0:30.2

Hey listeners, this week we're dusting off one of our favorite episodes to honor Dr. Helen Fisher,

0:36.4

who passed away this month at the age of 79.

0:40.0

Helen was a renowned biological anthropologist who studied how love is hardwired in the brain.

0:46.0

She was the chief science advisor to Match.com and came on our show back in 2021 to help a listener

0:52.4

fall out of love.

0:55.1

Helen's heartfelt advice was smart and funny,

0:58.1

and I'm just glad we got it on tape so we can play it for you again.

1:02.1

We'll be back next week with the new episode,

1:04.0

but for now, here's former how-to host, David Epstein.

1:09.6

My mind was like 10,000 thoughts at once.

1:13.2

It was just like, why did that happen?

1:15.3

Why was I so stupid to let that?

1:17.3

Like maybe I imagined all of the chemistry and all of the things.

1:21.0

Maybe it was just like he got drunk and he just kissed me and it wasn't like a big deal.

1:25.7

Outwardly, I can put on a great like hey I'm doing fine

1:30.1

like nothing ever happened sort of situation but then inside I feel like why couldn't he pick me?

1:37.7

Welcome to how to I'm David Epstein we're just coming off of Valentine's, so you're probably sick of romance by now.

1:45.8

The flowers, the candy, sappy movies where Star Cross lovers run to meet each other in the rain,

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