How To Embrace Your Anti-Vax Family This Holiday Season
How To! with Mike Pesca
Peach Fish Projects
4.3 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 23 November 2021
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
Jackie is newly engaged, but thoughts about her big day fill her with dread, not excitement. Jackie and her fiance want to have only vaccinated people at their wedding to protect some vulnerable family members from COVID-19. However, requiring vaccination means Jackie's parents and sister likely won't attend, which would break Jackie's heart. On this episode of How To!, we bring on Nwandi Lawson, a former journalist who now runs a communications firm specializing in difficult conversations. She's had her own challenging family discussions during the pandemic, and has some surprising tips for how to speak truth to power while keeping your relationships intact, and maybe even change a few minds.
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| 0:21.8 | Talk about genius. Talk about generational talent. Coming to headphones near you on April 17th with a first guest you won't want to miss. Available wherever you get your podcasts. You know, part of me was like, well, if I said an ultimat, they're not going to want to miss my wedding, of course. They'll go ahead and get vaccinated. But another part of me is like, no, there's a very good chance that they won't and that they will |
| 0:41.5 | see this ultimatum as kind of a threat. And it, yeah, I really think that if I was to set an ultimatum, |
| 0:49.8 | it could devastate our relationship. Welcome to How To. I'm Amanda Ridley. |
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| 1:07.3 | And that's how we first met this week's listener, who we're calling Jackie. |
| 1:11.5 | Thank you so much for getting back to me. |
| 1:13.2 | I was really shocked and excited, honestly. |
| 1:16.0 | Jackie, who lives in Virginia, works from home as a graphic designer. |
| 1:20.0 | There's something very peaceful about your workspace. |
| 1:23.6 | I don't know. It's like very soothing with the plans. |
| 1:26.3 | Once I decided I was going to be working from home permanently, I just, I was like, |
| 1:30.1 | if I'm going to spend all my time in here, I need to make it a little bit more relaxing. |
| 1:35.4 | Which is good because there's another part of her life that is really stressing her out. |
| 1:43.7 | I recently got engaged. My fiancé, Tom, and I are planning to have our wedding in October of |
| 1:52.5 | 2022. And while there's a lot to plan, that's not what's worrying her. We have some family members |
| 1:58.7 | with health issues and we're still concerned about the pandemic |
| 2:03.0 | and making sure that this event isn't going to turn into an event that might spread disease to |
| 2:08.0 | people that we love or people in their circle. So it immediately became an issue where I'm |
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