How to Create Your Own Belonging with Michelle Zauner (Best Of)

We Can Do Hard Things

Glennon Doyle & Audacy

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.8 • 41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Michelle Zauner on how to begin healing our mother wounds, using her sensitivity to deepen her relationships and be a rockstar, why she’s obsessed with sheetcake and winnebagos, and why she is still “afraid of her mental health.” About Michelle: MICHELLE ZAUNER is best known as a singer and guitarist who creates dreamy, shoegaze-inspired indie pop under the name Japanese Breakfast. She has won acclaim from major music outlets around the world for releases like Psychopomp and Soft Sounds from Another Planet. Her most recent album, Jubilee, earned two GRAMMY nominations for Best New Artist and Best Alternative Music Album. Her first book, Crying in H Mart, is a New York Times Best Seller. She’s currently adapting the memoir for the screen for MGM’s Orion Pictures. TW: ⁠@jbrekkie⁠ IG: ⁠@jbrekkie To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to We Can Do Hard Things.
0:12.9	We're going to explain to you right away why we're a little extra sweaty today.
0:17.8	And that is because our guest today is Michelle'soner. Michelle's honor is best known as a singer
0:24.7	and guitarist who creates dreamy shoegays inspired indie pop under the name Japanese Breakfast.
0:32.2	She has won acclaim from major music outlets around the world for releases like PsychoPomp and Soft Sounds from
0:38.3	Another Planet and her most recent album Jubilee earned two Grammy nominations for Best New Artist and
0:46.3	Best Alternative Music Album. Her first book, Crying in H-Mart, is the book I have given to the
0:53.3	most people.
0:54.5	Yeah.
0:59.9	Is one of my favorite memoirs of all time and is a New York Times bestseller.
1:04.8	She's currently adapting the memoir for the screen for MGM's Orion Pictures.
1:10.2	Okay, Michelle's honor, I know that you're an icon and the world is obsessed with you,
1:14.6	but we have loved you for a very, very long time since the beginning.
1:16.6	Okay, we have three children.
1:21.5	Two of them write the music columns for their high school and their college.
1:24.1	And they, so music is a really big deal in our family.
1:29.8	And since psychopomp, like since the beginning, our house has been full of your voice. Every car ride. Yes. Wow, what an honor. And then one day, we were in this
1:37.8	little indie bookstore in our town, and I remember walking by a shelf and Chase, our oldest said,
1:43.0	that is Michelle's honor's book, Crying in H-Mart.
1:46.8	And I don't know. I mean, I knew from your lyrics that this book was going to be good.
1:53.1	But holy shit, crying in H-Mart is so flipping beautiful.
1:59.5	It's like your music.
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