How to Capture the “Upside” in the 2025 Housing Market

BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

BiggerPockets

Education, Business, Investing

4.8 • 16.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

How do you get higher rents, more appreciation, and bigger returns from real estate investing in 2025? It’s easy—copy the experts. They’re doing it over dozens of deals, so why not apply their same tactics to your properties? That’s precisely what we’re sharing in today’s episode—the “upside” tactics ANYONE can use on ANY investment property to create more cash flow, better equity upside, and make their future selves richer. Last week, we discussed the ten different “upside” investing tactics you can use in 2025 to boost your real estate returns. Today, we’re walking through six of them, in-depth, with investing experts Ashley Kehr and James Dainard. Ashley has been investing in rentals for over a decade, seeing basic properties become home-run rentals over time. James has made millions of dollars flipping houses with HUGE “upside,” he’s teaching you how to do the same, even if you’re only buying rentals. We’re walking through our favorite “upside” strategies and how to spot the properties that have multiple "upsides" for investors. Follow these steps, and in a few years, the properties you buy in 2025 could become your best investments yet! In This Episode We Cover: Why you CAN’T just focus on today’s rent prices/cash flow and how basic properties can become cash flow kings The “rocket fuel” James used to explode his net worth and real estate portfolio Hidden zoning opportunities that most homebuyers have no clue about (MASSIVE price appreciation potential) How to pinpoint the “path of progress” so you know exactly where to buy Why putting more cash down on a real estate deal is such an underrated move And So Much More! Links from the Show Join BiggerPockets for FREE Let Us Know What You Thought of the Show! Ask Your Question on the BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets YouTube The Best Markets to Buy Rental Properties Right Now (2025) Get Fully Customizable Insurance Coverage for All Phases of Occupancy on One Monthly Schedule and Bill with NREIG Sign Up for BiggerPockets Momentum 2025 to Supercharge Your Investing This Year Grab Dave’s Book, “Start with Strategy” Find Investor-Friendly Lenders BiggerPockets Real Estate 1075 - 10 Hidden Ways to Buy Properties with Huge “Upside” Connect with Ashley Connect with James Connect with Dave (00:00) Intro (03:50) Make Your Future Self Rich (05:07) Which Properties to Buy? (09:20) 1. Rent Growth (13:24) 2. Value-Add (14:49) 3. Zoning Opportunities (19:11) 4. More Equity, Less Debt (22:14) 5. Path of Progress (26:33) 6. Learning (and Earning) (29:26) Find YOUR Upside Check out more resources from this show on BiggerPockets.com and https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-1079 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome back to the Bigger Pockets podcast.
0:07.8	I'm Dave Meyer, head of real estate investing here at BP.
0:11.6	Today, we're talking more about designing your deals.
0:15.2	Because the reality is you're probably not going on Zillow and finding some perfect deal ready to go.
0:20.4	You have to spend
0:21.7	time figuring out what are good assets and how to maximize the performance of those
0:27.9	assets over the long run. And I actually talked about a framework last week on BPRE
0:33.6	episode 1075. And to underscore this and help everyone really understand this, I am bringing
0:40.7	on two expert investors, James Dainard and Ashley Care, to talk more about it so they can share
0:46.7	examples of how they use these strategies in their own investing. James and Ashley,
0:52.6	welcome back to the show. Good to see you both. Thank you for having
0:55.3	us. I'm so excited. I love talking about deals. So let me just recap a little bit that I have these
1:01.1	four big picture principles that personally I look for when I review deals right now. And I see
1:08.2	them as sort of like playing defense. They limit my risk. They ensure that I can
1:12.7	hold onto assets. And then I sort of look for long-term upside over the course of my hold period.
1:19.9	And that could be a short hold or a long hold. So these are the four. And James and Ashley just
1:24.5	tell me if you think these are terrible ideas. But this is sort of how
1:27.5	I'm thinking about my investing and I want to get your feedback on it. So number one, I'm looking
1:33.4	at this situation in the market and seeing that a lot of good assets are sitting on the market
1:39.6	a little longer right now. That's just, there's been a little bit of a slowdown and I'm trying
1:43.8	to use
1:44.2	that to my advantage to find things that normally were being snapped up super quickly.
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