Welcome. This is the Lifetime Cash Flow through Real Estate Investing podcast.

This is where you'll learn strategies to help you achieve lifetime financial freedom through real estate investment.

Your host, Rod Clef, has owned over 2,000 homes and apartments.

And he brings experts in all aspects of real estate investment and management onto the show.

Now, here's your host, Rod Cleef.

Welcome to another edition of Lifetime Cash Flow through Real Estate Investing.

I'm Rod Clef, and I'm thrilled you're here.

And I know you're going to get tremendous value from the gentleman I'm interviewing today.

His name is Dustin Heiner.

And he teaches people how to buy single family all the way I'm interviewing today. His name is Dustin Heiner, and he teaches

people how to buy single family all the way up to four units. His website is master passive income.com,

and he also has a conference coming up in March. Where's it at? Nashville. Nashville. How I've got

an asset in Nashville? Love Nashville. Okay.

Well, welcome the show, bro. Hey, Rod. Thank you so much for having me on. Yeah, I just, I love real estate investing. It allows me freedom in my life. But then I go to the gym every day, hang up my family. I come on podcasts. I can fly here to hang out with you. So it's amazing to have real estate investing. but thank you for having me on.

Yeah, of course.

So where do you live, by the way? Nashville. Oh, you live in Nashville? Yep. Yep. Yep. Yeah, you're where, you know, my Avalon of Hermitage burned down. Did you see that on the house? No, I didn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had, I had, uh, it didn't completely burned down. I lost a 20, 20 unit building there. And I have a beautiful, you know, B plus asset, 145 doors in Hermitage. Yeah. Which you know, obviously. But, yeah, I didn't realize how fun Nashville is. It's good. That, is it Broadway? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Broadway Street. That's got all the bars and restaurants.

It's a, it's a great city to visit. Yeah, 100%. Live there, too. We love living there. Yeah. I have a 375 unit apartment complex just south of Nashville about 20, 30 minutes away. Nice. That goes really well. And also one in Chattanooga, 350 units. So that's where you're, so you've got some multifamily assets as well, you told me,

before we started recording. Yeah. Well, why don't you talk, tell us your story. You know, when's you get into real estate? Maybe what did you do before real estate? Why real estate? Yeah. So I, just like everybody, have been taught, you go to school, you get good grades, and then you take those good grades.

You go to college or university and you get thousands of dollars into debt and you take that piece of paper they give you, called a degree, and you go and hopefully get a quote unquote career and work 40 plus years of your life and then retire on 40% of what you manage to save. That entire time working at J-O-B is what I call it. Just Overbrook is what you're living. So I'm doing that exact same thing. But in 2006, I bought my first rental property. I was living in California. I bought this one in Ohio and it started making me money in cash flow. And I knew I needed to be an investor. Like I knew this is the way to go.

But Rod, life started getting in the way. And my wife and I started in kids. We have one,

two, three, and four kids. And this is really what shoved me to become a real estate investor.

So when my wife had her fourth kid, I had a regular sit down desk job working for a local

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