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🗓️ 10 December 2025
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The case for love and compassion in a world that's filled with hatred and division.
Sharon Salzberg is a meditation pioneer, world-renowned teacher, and New York Times bestselling author. She is among the first to bring mindfulness & lovingkindness meditation to mainstream American culture fifty years ago. She has written many books, including her latest, a kids book called Kind Karl.
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| 0:00.0 | It's the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris. |
| 0:18.5 | Hey, hey, everybody. How we doing? |
| 0:20.8 | When you are exhorted to love your enemies, which is a common Hey, hey, everybody, how we doing? |
| 0:29.0 | When you are exhorted to love your enemies, which is a common Buddhist refrain, you may hear it as an appeasement. |
| 0:31.2 | Images of Neville Chamberlain might come to mind. |
| 0:37.4 | You might be tempted to think that loving your enemies means hurling yourself at their feet or co-signing on their terrible ideas. |
| 0:40.2 | But actually, it's nothing like that at all. |
| 0:46.0 | Loving your enemies turns out to be the wisest and most strategic possible countermeasure. |
| 0:50.4 | Not only psychologically, in that it can help reduce your anger and anxiety, but also, |
| 0:54.2 | as I said, strategically, in that it can help you make better decisions. |
| 1:00.5 | As you might imagine, this is a conversation I have to have all the time, since I'm often out in the public square, |
| 1:05.9 | making the case for love and compassion in a world that is filled with hatred and division. |
| 1:14.6 | When I make this case, just to be super clear about this, I am absolutely not arguing that you should go soft or be a dormant. |
| 1:24.2 | I'm arguing that you can take really firm and even stern action, but, and this is the key, that action does not have to be motivated by hatred or anger. |
| 1:29.1 | Sure, some amount of anger can be clarifying or energizing. It gets you off the couch, but it can very quickly curdle into a kind of constricted state. There's a reason they call |
| 1:34.6 | it blind rage. By contrast, there's some scientific evidence that a state of warmth or loving |
| 1:39.5 | kindness actually increases your peripheral vision. So that's what I want for you in these difficult times. |
| 1:45.4 | To be able to stand up for what you believe in, |
| 1:47.6 | but to do it from a place where you're drawing on the cleanest burning fuel, |
| 1:51.4 | which is love, as cliched as that may sound. |
| 1:54.8 | Which brings me to my guest today, |
| 1:56.3 | who's one of the most effective proponents of this argument in the world. |
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