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How To!

How To Become an Expat

How To!

Slate Magazine

Business, Education, How To, Self-improvement

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Before the 2024 election, Maureen and Jayna had hoped to attend a historic inauguration for Kamala Harris in Washington, D.C. But when Donald Trump won the presidency, the lesbian couple scrapped their trip—and booked a fact-finding mission to Portugal instead. On this episode of How To!, they talk with co-host Carvell Wallace about their plans to leave the U.S.—and start a new life somewhere they’ll feel safer. And, Jen Barnett of Expatsi offers up advice about Portugal and other LGBTQ+ friendly countries, the implications for taxes and international travel (including return trips to the States), and what expat-curious listeners need to know about raising kids, voting, EU citizenship—and how to take the first step. Links Mentioned:  The Expatsi Test Mindful Migrant on TikTok If you liked this episode check out: How To Uproot Your Life and How To Live Anywhere in the World. Do you have a problem that needs solving? Send us a note at [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at 646-495-4001 and we might have you on the show. Subscribe for free on Apple, Spotify or wherever you listen. How To’s executive producer is Derek John. Joel Meyer is our senior editor/producer. The show is produced by Rosemary Belson, with Kevin Bendis. Want more How To!? Subscribe to Slate Plus to unlock exclusive bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of the How To! show page. Or, visit slate.com/howtoplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Maureen and Jaina are not currently married. Is there an advantage to being married to pull off a

1:05.6

transition like this or to not being married? Great question. Okay, well, let me ask you this first.

1:11.7

What do you want me to say?

1:13.5

I don't know.

1:14.2

What does Jaina want you to say?

1:18.4

I feel like this topic has come up before here.

1:23.5

Welcome to how to.

1:24.9

I'm Carvel Wallace.

1:26.4

Coming up on the show today, we'll talk to a couple that is accelerating their plans to live abroad as a result of the 2024 election. But first, we're kicking off 2025 with some great news. How To is being featured in Apple Podcast's new beginnings campaign for the entire month of January. To anyone who found us through this feature, welcome. We're so glad you're here. And this is what we do on how to. Each week we tackle life's problems, big and small, with the help of expert guests. Whether you're figuring out how to make friends as an adult, how to stick with your New Year's resolutions,

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