You just don't know who you're affecting and then how that's multiplying.

So it's a good spot to be in to be able to help people and influence people in a positive way.

This is the paper. I have the incredible Mel Tucker with us. He is the head coach today.

At Michigan State University, a former football player, a buckeye from Cleveland, Ohio,

University of Colorado's former head coach, interim head coach for the Jacksonville,

Jaguars as well. Welcome to the playbook, Mel. Hey, Dave, thanks for having me.

Well, I love your journey. First of all, I love anyone from Ohio because it's a great place

to be from. And there's, you know, a work ethic. You know, people ask me Dave, how have you

attained the success that you have? I said, because I'm consistent and persistent in the pursuit

of my potential. My grandfather sold tires out of the back of the truck six days a week,

12 hours a day, and he wasn't anything special in Ohio. Everybody had that mindset of,

you go to work and you do your best, you learn lessons, you have fun, and you go back to work,

do your best, learn lessons and have fun. It wasn't difficult coming from that part of the world.

What were some of the lessons that you learned about work ethic and then how have you applied that

to instill that into a generation that may not have the same perspective of discipline and work

ethic that we had growing up in Ohio in the 70s? Yeah, no, thank you for that. So I've always been

taught that it's all about, it's all about the work that you put into something. And, you know,

my parents, my parents taught me that, you know, my dad was a tireless worker. Now I saw him,

you know, get up early and go to work and I saw him stay late, and I was the only child for eight

years. And so I spent a lot of time with my parents. And so I saw, I saw the work ethic

from them and, you know, and their friends, you know, people that they were, they were with,

you know, whether they were school teachers or they worked at the, at the steel, at the steel mill,

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