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How To! with Mike Pesca

How To Be a Mindful Grandparent

How To! with Mike Pesca

Peach Fish Projects

Education, How To

4.32K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2024

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Shirley Showalter and Marilyn McEntyre know that grandparenting is more than just cookies and Play-Doh. Don't get us wrong, those things are fun! But the art of contemporary grandparenting requires mindfulness, intentionality, and navigating boundaries. On today's episode, Courtney Martin talks with Marilyn and Shirley about their book, The Mindful Grandparent, and the wisdom they've gained as elders to 12 grandchildren.

If you liked this episode check out: How To Face Your Kid's Future

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How To's executive producer is Derek John. Joel Meyer is our senior editor/producer. The show is produced by Rosemary Belson, with Kevin Bendis and Sara McCrea.

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0:00.0

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0:30.4

We do have many moments of joy and delight. Just greeting each other. And it may be that we've only been apart for a week but

0:39.8

her little arms come around my neck and i i feel this bubbling up of great joy whenever that happens

0:53.3

welcome to how to i'm Courtney mart. The other day I was going through some old

0:58.7

boxes in my attic and I found a handwritten letter from my maternal grandmother dated August 26,

1:04.6

1996. It read, an open letter to my exceptional and unique grandchildren.

1:12.2

Have you any idea what joy you bring me?

1:15.0

I am so blessed with five good-looking, very bright, healthy, vibrant, generous, motivated, delightful young people.

1:22.3

Stay fascinated with life and become that special person God created you to be. I love you, grandmama.

1:31.1

It's so funny because I have no recollection of receiving that letter at 16 years old.

1:37.2

Nor do I understand why it would have been addressed to me. I'm not the oldest grandchild,

1:41.5

and I'm probably not even the most responsible, but somehow here it was.

1:46.1

It felt like a message from beyond the grave.

1:49.2

My grandmother's voice, her arthritic knuckles, her ham salad sandwiches, and sweet Adeline costume jewelry,

1:55.8

it all came flooding back 20 years after she died.

2:00.6

This grandmother was a big part of my life. She was

2:03.7

around a lot. My paternal grandmother? Not so much. Yet both of them are a big part of who I am.

2:11.5

Grandparents are such influential figures, whether they bake cookies or indulge the world of make

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