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From KQED.

From KQED.

From KQED Public Radio in San Francisco, this is Forum.

I'm your host, Seema Yasmin.

Have you ever been stuck in a disagreement that no amount of talking or facts can untangle?

Coming up, a conversation with journalist Amanda Ripley, author of the new book, High Conflict,

Why We Get Trapped and How We Get Out.

From divorce proceedings and neighbourhood feud to the Middle East peace process, Amanda spent four years analysing how we end up stuck in high conflict situations. Find out what lessons we can

learn from guerrilla fighters in Colombia,

and even astronauts, to help guide us towards what Amanda calls good conflict. That's next on

Forum, right after this news.

Welcome to Forum. I'm your host, Seymie Yasmin. I'm a public health doctor and a science journalist. And joining me this hour is Amanda Ripley. She's an investigative journalist and author of the new book, High Conflict, Why We Get Trapped, and How We Get Out. Amanda, welcome back to the show.

Thanks for having me.

Good to be here. So it's been almost exactly a year since you were last on forum. Back in April of 2020, you talked about how we can effectively navigate crisis and now you're taking a deep dive

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