How They Failed: C.A. Republicans, Media Critics and Facebook Leadership

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New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.2 • 7.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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In a special Opinion Audio bonanza, Jane Coaston, Ezra Klein (The Ezra Klein Show) and Kara Swisher (Sway) sit down to discuss what went wrong for the G.O.P. in the recall election of Gov. Gavin Newsom of California. “This was where the nationalization of politics really bit back for Republicans,” Jane says. The three hosts then debate whether the media industry’s criticism of itself does any good at all. “The media tweets like nobody’s watching,” Ezra says. Then the hosts turn to The Wall Street Journal’s revelations in “The Facebook Files” and discuss how to hold Facebook accountable. “We’re saying your tools in the hands of malevolent players are super dangerous,” Kara says, “but we have no power over them whatsoever.” And last, Ezra, Jane and Kara offer recommendations to take you deep into history, fantasy and psychotropics.

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0:00.0	Today on The Yard Gument, do Cara Swisher, Ezra Klein and I agree on anything?
0:12.4	This week, I'm doing something a little different.
0:14.8	Instead of a typical debate, today I'm doing a special roundtable discussion on the stuff
0:18.8	in the news that I and my colleagues can't stop thinking and arguing about.
0:23.5	I'm joined by my fellow host from New York Times' opinion.
0:26.6	Cara Swisher is the host of Sway, and Ezra Klein hosts the Ezra Klein show.
0:31.9	And as you'll hear, we agree on some things.
0:34.4	God, definitely not everything.
0:36.9	We'll be back next week with a regular argument episode, and it's gonna be a barn burner.
0:42.9	First, here's Ezra kicking off our conversation.
0:51.2	Jane Cara, hello.
0:52.2	Hello.
0:53.2	Hey, how you doing?
0:54.2	How you feeling, Cara?
0:55.2	I hear you're a little froggy over there.
0:56.4	I'm a little froggy.
0:57.4	It's really bad because I've got 103 interviews to do in the next two days, so it'll be fine.
1:02.5	Too much screaming at the kids.
1:04.2	Yeah, well, and probably they're bringing all the germs.
1:06.3	I've been getting sick now that people are doing stuff and my son keeps coming home with
1:09.6	a snotty nose.
1:11.0	We got a lot to cover today.
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