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How the Top One-Third of FTX Creditors Are Boosting the Payouts for Everyone Else - Ep. 643

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Tech News, Business News

4.5 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Listen to the episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pods, Fountain, Overcast, Podcast Addict, Pocket Casts, Castbox, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music, or on your favorite podcast platform. Thomas Braziel, managing partner at 117 Partners, dives into the draft FTX bankruptcy plan, which was praised for paying out at more than 100% in dollar terms, but has a number of intricacies that are drawing criticisms from creditors—including a group that is urging creditors to vote not. The episode delves into the nuances of the proposed payout, explaining how the estate was able to pay back more than 100% than the dollar value of the claims, why some creditors are being pitted against each other, and why it might get approved even “over the kicking and screaming” of some creditors. Braziel gives his insights into the the rapid formation of this plan, the controversial role of Sullivan and Cromwell, and the logistical challenges posed by what may end up being paper check payouts. Show highlights: Why the plan that was filed this week is such big news How it was never even possible for creditors to be made whole in crypto asset terms How the majority of depositors actually had stablecoins on the FTX platform Why there are “inter-creditor” disputes What a "cramdown" is and why it's significant in this case Criticisms of the plan, and why larger investors, especially with crypto holdings, are having their gains socialized Whether the FTX estate made mistakes by selling some of its positions before they 10x’ed Why FTX didn't reboot its platform What conflicts of interest might arise from law firm Sullivan and Cromwell The tax implications for creditors who are non-US taxpayers How the claims are going to be distributed Whether the creditors will favor the proposal and the next steps Thank you to our sponsors! iTrustCapital Polkadot VaultCraft Guest Thomas Braziel, Managing Partner at 117 Partners Previous appearances on Unchained: Why FTX Might Try to Claw Back Funds From Retail Customers Will FTX Reboot? Here’s John Ray’s Internal Deadline for Making a Decision Will FTX Customers Ever Recover Their Assets? Two Insolvency Experts Weigh In Will Celsius Survive the Bankruptcy Process? How Crypto Bankruptcy Claims Buyers Will Profit From the Collapse of FTX Links Previous coverage on Unchained of the FTX bankruptcy: Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Creditors plan: Unchained: 98% of FTX Creditors to Receive 118% Claims Payout Thomas’ summary of the plan Dollarization: Unchained: Is it Fair That Crypto Bankruptcies Are Denominated in Dollars? Here’s a Solution to Dollarization Criticism of the plan: Nicholas Hall’s thread Sunil Kavuri’s opinion on X Zach Guzman on the sale of Anthropic Taxes: Thomas’ thread on the taxes for creditors Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That's their argument. Their argument is like, well, hang on a second, I'm up 10X, you're up 1X, why am I giving up my 10X for a 2X? You know, that's kind of argument. It's not quite like that, but it's, I'm showing you the extreme of it like someone that had

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Salana could say they're up 10 x and someone that had a meme coin that's at zero you know now they're

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dollarized which they love. Hi everyone, welcome to Unchained, your no-hype resource for all things crypto.

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I'm your host Laura Shin, author of The Cryptobians.

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I started coming in crypto eight years ago and as the senior editor Forbes was the first

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