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Diane Rehm: On My Mind

How the powerful are trying to undermine press freedoms in the US

Diane Rehm: On My Mind

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🗓️ 14 March 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump’s love-hate relationship with the news media was on full display throughout his first term. He screamed “fake news” at negative coverage and labeled journalists the “enemy of the people.” But lately, he has taken his campaign beyond the court of public opinion, filing lawsuits against ABC, CBS, The Des Moines Register, and the Pulitzer Board.

David Enrich is the business investigations editor for the New York Times. He says Trump’s legal actions are part of a broader conservative movement to undermine First Amendment protections for the press. 

The effort is being led, he says, by politicians, billionaires and corporations – and may soon make its way to the Supreme Court. He joins Diane tells the story in new book, “Murder the Truth.”

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Diane. On my mind, the threat to press freedom in the United States.

0:13.3

Donald Trump's love-hate relationship with the news media was on full display during his first term.

0:22.3

He screened fake news at negative coverage and labeled journalists the enemy of the people.

0:30.4

But lately, he's taken his campaign beyond the Court of Public Opinion,

0:36.2

filing lawsuits against ABC, CBS, the Des Moines Register,

0:42.4

and the Pulitzer Board. People and institutions are going to act rationally, and they are just

0:47.6

going to shy away from covering things where there's a legal risk, and that is very much against

0:52.8

the spirit of the First Amendment.

0:55.7

David Enrich is the business investigations editor for the New York Times.

1:02.2

He says Trump's legal actions are part of a broader right-wing movement

1:08.5

to undermine First Amendment protections. It's being led by politicians,

1:15.7

billionaires, and corporations, and may soon make its way to the Supreme Court. He tells the

1:23.8

story in a new book, Murder the Truth.

1:32.1

David, tell me about the roots of this book and what got you interested in this whole subject.

1:37.0

Well, I run a small group of investigative reporters at the New York Times,

1:42.0

and I started noticing a few years ago that it seemed like basically every time we were starting to look into a powerful person or institution, we were just on the receiving end of a lot of threatening letters from high-price lawyers representing these clients who did not want us to be

2:02.4

writing about them or digging into their affairs. And, you know, we've got at the New York Times

2:07.7

a very good team of in-house lawyers, and we have a lot of experience dealing with letters like

2:12.6

this. So it's not a huge problem for us. But these threats in these letters were just so frequent

2:20.1

and the volume seemed to be increasing so much

2:22.1

that it got me wondering what life would be like

2:25.4

if I didn't work at the New York Times.

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