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Foreign Policy Live

How the Iran-Israel Conflict Is Reshaping the Middle East

Foreign Policy Live

Foreign Policy

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4601 Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Conflict broke out between Israel and Iran on Friday, with Israel launching an attack on Iran’s nuclear and military facilities and Iran responding in turn. Vali Nasr, a Middle East expert and professor at Johns Hopkins University, sits down with Ravi Agrawal to discuss. Nasr is the author, most recently, of Iran’s Grand Strategy: A Political History.  FP Staff: Israel Strikes Iran Iselin Brady and Daniel Byman: How the Israel-Iran War Might End Steven A. Cook: Israel Is Going for the Death Blow on Iran Jeffrey Lewis: Nuclear Claims Are a Smoke Screen for Hopes of Toppling Iran John Haltiwanger: Iran’s Military Just Lost Its ‘Brain Trust’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Ravi Agrawal, Foreign Policy's Editor-in-Chief.

0:06.0

This is FP Live.

0:10.6

Iran and Israel are locked in a fierce and prolonged fight.

0:15.6

Last Friday, Israel launched a surprise coordinated attack on military and nuclear targets in Iran. It's safe to say

0:23.3

that Tehran was shocked. There had been some suggestions that Israel might attack, but Iran saw

0:30.2

those mostly as threats, a negotiating tactic, especially since nuclear talks between Washington

0:36.7

and Tehran were still underway.

0:39.8

And then over the weekend and into this week, Iran began to fight back with what it can,

0:45.5

shooting ballistic missiles towards Israel and also sending in hundreds of armed drones.

0:51.8

Israel, meanwhile, is continuing to attack key targets across Iran. This is a

0:57.4

really serious conflict, and there are real concerns it could escalate, even to the broader

1:02.7

region. Now, Israel says it took action on Friday because it had intelligence that the Iran

1:09.4

was closing in on nuclear weapons.

1:11.9

We don't yet have proof of that claim, but we do know that Israel can't easily end Iran's

1:18.7

nuclear ambitions. Iran's main nuclear facility in Fordow is deep underground and attacking

1:25.2

it would take massive bunker busters that only the United

1:29.0

States could help with.

1:30.4

So where is this all headed?

1:32.7

How does it end?

1:34.0

And what does it mean for the Middle East?

1:36.1

I wanted to speak this week with someone who really understands Iran and its motivations.

1:42.3

Vali Nasser is the author of a new book called Iran's Grand Strategy, A Political History.

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