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Explain It to Me

How the 1918 flu pandemic ended

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Education, Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.47.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 January 2022

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Dylan talks to John M. Barry, distinguished scholar at Tulane University and author of The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History, about the Spanish flu of 1918-1919, its parallels to Covid-19, and what that pandemic’s end tells us about how this one might end. References: The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History Hosts: Dylan Matthews (@dylanmatt), senior correspondent, Vox Credits: Sofi LaLonde, producer and engineer Libby Nelson, editorial adviser Amber Hall, deputy editorial director of talk podcasts Sign up for The Weeds newsletter each Friday: vox.com/weedsletter Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a donation to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:05.0

Hello and welcome to another episode of the Weeds. I'm very excited for today's episode,

1:18.1

which takes a break from our current pandemic to tell you the story of the beginning and

1:22.2

end of another. So before COVID, the biggest disease outbreak in modern memory was the

1:27.4

1918-1919 flu outbreak. Dubbed the Spanish flu in the press somewhat erroneously, which

1:33.7

we'll get into. The diseases origins are still disputed, but it wound up killing millions

1:39.3

of people around the world, spreading rapidly among troops fighting world or one, and

1:43.8

forcing civilians into lockdowns, quarantines and other measures that feel disturbingly familiar

1:49.9

at this point. I started reading about the 1918 flu in March 2020, and at the time the

1:56.1

parallels to COVID felt sort of minor. The world was such a different place 100 years ago,

2:01.5

medical knowledge was so much more limited, but COVID had since then proved that a mass

2:06.6

casualty event like the 1918 flu could happen again, and the parallels feel spookier than

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