You know, what you're seeing in a text is the kind of constant negotiation to establish racial hierarchy, right?

That the white elites understand that they certainly is predicated on anti-blackness to a large degree on the exploitation of Mexican labor.

But because you have this population that, you know, is racially diverse, you know, meaning the Latinx population, that means that Jim Crow looks different in a San Antonio and in Houston than it might in a, you know, is racially diverse, you know, meaning the Latinx population, that means that Jim Crow

looks different in a San Antonio and in Houston than it might in a, you know, in a streetport,

in an East Texas town, which looks much more like what we were associated with, the Louisiana,

Alabama, Georgia. Welcome to the Edge of Sports podcast.

I'm Dave Ziron.

This week we're talking to the author of the new book, The Sports Revolution,

How Texas Changed the Culture of American Athletics by Frank Gurdy.

I also have some choice words about the plans for March Madness.

Just Stand Up and Just Sit Down Awards.

But first, Frank Gurdie.

My first question for you, honestly, is, you know, the book's called The Sports Revolution,

how Texas changed the culture of American athletics.

Aren't you going to worry, aren't you a little bit worried that you're just giving Texas another reason to brag?

No, not really, because I'm trying to present a side of Texas that I think folks often overlook, you know.

I think that, you know, in some ways, what's happened last week or two weeks ago now with the power outages and the water outages, you know, reflects what's wrong with Texas, right?

The kind of dominance of the energy elite, the dominance of

the Republican Party, the white elites. And yet there's all kinds of histories of the states,

marginalized peoples that, you know, you see, you know, in various social movements. And to some

degree you see in this book, right? I mean, I really wanted the readers to sort of understand

the impact of Texas-based athletes, marginalized,

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