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How South Africa Narrowly Avoided Civil War

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4.336.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2023

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Journalist Justice Malala explains how Nelson Mandela and F. W. de Klerk kept the country on a path to peace after the 1993 assassination of Chris Hani. His book is The Plot to Save South Africa.

Also, David Bianculli reviews the five part HBO series White House Plumbers, a new spin on a Watergate break-in drama.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is Fresh Air. I'm Dave Davies and for Terry Gross.

0:04.3

We live in a time in the United States when our political divisions are so deep and our

0:08.9

discourse so heated, it sometimes seems as if the country could come apart at the seams.

0:14.8

Our guest today, South African-born journalist Justice Malala, has a book about a moment

0:19.7

in the history of his country when the nation came perilously close to dissolving into civil

0:25.0

war.

0:26.1

It was in 1993, when the White-led government of F.W. DeClerk had freed Nelson Mandela from

0:32.5

prison and legalized opposition parties, and delicate negotiations were underway to turn

0:37.8

the country from an apartheid state to a multiracial democracy.

0:42.6

Malala's book is carefully researched, but it's also informed by his own experience.

0:47.8

He was a cub reporter at a South African newspaper, literally his first day on the job, when

0:53.7

an act of political violence threatened to scuttled in negotiations toward majority

0:58.2

rule and send the country into chaos.

1:01.8

His book is a detailed account of the 10 days that followed, which he says offers important

1:06.7

lessons about effective leadership in moments of crisis.

1:11.2

Justice Malala has been a reporter and political analyst in print and television for decades.

1:16.1

His work has appeared in the Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, the Guardian, and

1:19.7

other publications.

1:21.4

He currently writes regularly for the South African Times and Financial Mail, among others,

1:26.8

and is the resident political analyst for E-News Channel Africa.

1:31.2

He's the author of a previous book, we have now begun our descent.

1:35.6

His new book is titled The Plot to Save South Africa, the weak Mandela averted civil war,

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