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How some online networks target and radicalize kids

Consider This from NPR

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🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

The FBI is investigating at least 250 people who may be tied to online networks that target children.

These networks encourage kids to hurt themselves, other minors or even animals. In some countries, they have been tied to mass casualty and terrorism plots.

NPR's domestic extremism correspondent Odette Yousef has spoken with a family that experienced this firsthand.

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0:00.0

Before her son entered ninth grade, Dana says he managed his time online pretty well.

0:05.1

He plays music. He plays drums. He plays guitar. He sings. He draws. He writes. He reads. He had enough things to keep him busy otherwise. So it had never really been a source of conflict until fall of 2023.

0:18.1

We're not using Dana's full name because her son is a minor. The fall of

0:21.5

2023 was a bumpy time. And before we go any further, we want to warn you that today's story

0:26.2

contains graphic descriptions of self-harm. Dana's son was being bullied at school. The core

0:31.5

friend group he'd had for a long time had broken apart. And his parents were separating. There was

0:36.6

a lot of change. At the beginning of

0:39.1

the school year, Dana noticed her son was retreating into his phone. He had an iPhone, so I had

0:43.8

Apple parental controls set up. Dana set up screen time locks for some websites. She limited his time

0:50.0

online. He wasn't allowed on social media. But then she'd find out he had figured out some way around

0:55.4

everything. His personality was also changing. Dana said he was isolating himself. He stopped doing

1:01.7

things he used to enjoy. And over a few months, she became aware that he was self-harming. At first,

1:07.3

it was just small cuts on his arms. Sometimes he'd come to her afterward asking for help.

1:12.7

He said he felt like he was losing control.

1:14.9

We were given a safety plan to lock up items in the home that he could use to harm himself.

1:20.8

But it seemed like somehow he kept finding other items to harm himself.

1:26.7

Before all of this began, Dana's son had already been seeing a therapist.

1:31.0

He's neurodivergent, and she says therapy helped equip him to navigate a neurotypical world.

1:36.6

Dana brought up the self-harm and the behavioral changes at his appointments.

1:40.2

She says they were told it was normal teenage stuff, even that he should spend more time online because it's where he seemed to be finding community.

1:48.1

But Dana was starting to worry that actually he was being radicalized online.

1:52.9

He'd started dropping what she calls extreme political comments into conversations, including neo-fascist talking points.

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