One of the funny things about we Christians is that I think we generally have two speeds.

We talk about things as the utmost importance, like this is the gospel, and everything else

is not important at all.

So this is why you have conversations about what is the very bare minimum of something a person has to say

they believe in order to get to heaven, right? It's like let's get down to what is the

heart the most important and everything else just gets talked about is unimportant. So I

think we need a few more speeds. I mean you need to be able to say, you know, look, this is really, really important,

but it's not the gospel. You know, that's at a higher level of importance than this thing is,

even though I think this is really important, and I'm going to try to get you to agree with me on it.

Welcome to the Crossway podcast, a show where we sit down with authors each week for thoughtful

interviews about the Bible, theology, church history, and the Christian life. I'm Matt Tully,

and today I'm talking with Greg Gilbert. Greg serves as senior pastor at Third Avenue Baptist Church

in Louisville, Kentucky. He's also the

author of a number of best-selling books, including What is the Gospel from Crossway? Today, Greg and I

discuss why Christians so often struggle to clearly define a simple yet foundational concept, the gospel. He highlights the temptation that we all

face to subtly subtract from or add to the gospel in response to various cultural pressures. He explains

why he doesn't like or use the phrase, this or that is a gospel issue.

And he responds to the common critique that evangelicals often have an overly individualistic

view of the gospel.

Let's get started.

Greg, thank you so much for joining me today on the Crossway podcast.

Thanks, Matt. Good to be with you.

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