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What Now? with Trevor Noah

How Shame Became the New Sex Ed with Carter Sherman

What Now? with Trevor Noah

SiriusXM & Day Zero Productions

News, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.72.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Summary

Everyone’s talking about Gen Z’s sex recession - but maybe it’s not about sex at all. Trevor and Eugene chat with Carter Sherman, journalist and author of The Second Coming, to discuss how maybe Gen Z’s sexual appetites are being influenced by fear, politics, power, and the way intimacy has been hijacked by the internet.

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0:00.0

Gen Z is having a sex recession.

0:02.0

20 and 30 somethings are having less sex than previous generations and are starting their sex lives later.

0:07.0

Gen Z have been done dirty when it comes to dating.

0:10.0

And people's views of dating is more polarizing than ever.

0:13.0

For many teenagers, greater use of social media means a far greater sense of isolation.

0:18.0

The average 14-year-old boy today has seen more hardcore porn than

0:22.2

all of the American fighting forces in the Second World War. Sex ed, here in the United States,

0:26.7

is nonsense and confusion because it teaches you how to be safe, but not the pleasures. And porn

0:32.6

teaches you the pleasures, sort of, but not how to be safe. Carter Sherman, reproductive health and justice reporter with The Guardian,

0:39.1

who interviewed over 100 young people for her new book.

0:42.2

It's called The Second Coming.

0:48.7

This is What Now with Trevor Noah.

0:53.8

This episode is presented by Whole Foods Market.

0:56.8

Eat well for less.

1:03.8

I'm truly so excited at this conversation.

1:06.2

You understand.

1:06.8

Well, thank you for having me on.

1:07.9

Yeah, because, like, sometimes you're reading a book

1:09.8

and then it's just like facts, facts, facts, data, facts, facts, facts. And then here it's like, facts, data, sex. Yeah? Good times. Why don't you lead with that? I mean. Yeah, coffee, coffee. Marriage, coffee. Hospitals, hospitals, research. You know, I like to surprise.

1:28.3

Okay.

1:29.3

That's the secret thing that I also write about in addition to healthcare is sex, which is more fun, that's for sure.

1:35.3

Sherman, your husband's...

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