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🗓️ 16 January 2023
⏱️ 47 minutes
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In Episode 293 of Hidden Forces, Agathe Demarais, the Global forecasting director at the Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) and author of Backfire, joins us for a discussion about the ripple effects of US sanctions and export controls, how they are reshaping the global economy by weaponizing trade and finance, and the steps that countries are taking to insulate themselves from the US Dollar-based global financial and trading system.
This episode is part of a series of conversations that we’ve curated on the role and future of the US dollar, the reorganization of international trade along geopolitical lines, and the evolving impact of great power competition on global trade and finance.
In the first hour of their conversation, Agathe and Demetri discuss the origins and evolution of US sanctions policy and how it has been applied successfully and unsuccessfully in countries like Cuba, North Korea, Iran, and Russia. The discussion on Russian sanctions continues into the second hour where Agathe and Demetri also explore the subject of export controls and the US Commerce department’s recent announcement that it would be restricting the ability of China’s economy to obtain or otherwise manufacture specific high-end semiconductor chips used in many military and commercial technologies and applications. They also discuss what China, Russia, and other members of an emergent “anti-American” coalition of nation-states are doing to try and insulate their economies and financial systems from the US dollar and Western sanctions.
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Episode Recorded on 01/11/2023
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0:00.0 | What's up everybody? My name is Demetra Cafinas and you're listening to Hidden Forces, |
0:06.0 | a podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs and everyday citizens to challenge consensus narratives |
0:14.0 | and to learn how to think critically about the systems of power shaping our world. |
0:19.0 | My guest in today's episode is Agat Demare, a global forecasting director at the Economist Intelligence Unit |
0:26.0 | and author of Backfire, a book about the global ripple effects of US sanctions |
0:31.0 | and the steps that targeted countries are taking to insulate themselves from the US financial and trading system. |
0:38.0 | This episode is part of a series that I've been putting together on the US dollar, |
0:43.0 | de-globalization or re-globalization, and the evolving impact of great power competition on global trade and finance. |
0:51.0 | You can find other such related podcasts on this week's episode page at hiddenforces.io. |
0:58.0 | In the first hour of our conversation, Agat Demare discussed the origins and evolution of US sanctions policy |
1:05.0 | and how it has been applied successfully and unsuccessfully in countries like Cuba, North Korea, Iran and Russia. |
1:13.0 | Our discussion on Russian sanctions in particular leads us into the second hour |
1:17.0 | where we also explore the subject of export controls and the US Commerce Department's recent announcement |
1:23.0 | that it would be restricting the ability of China's economy to obtain or otherwise manufacture certain high-end semiconductor chips |
1:31.0 | used in military applications and presumably given the dual-use nature of this technology commercial applications as well. |
1:38.0 | We also discuss what China, Russia and other members of this emergent coalition of states |
1:43.0 | united by their hostility towards the prevailing American-led international order |
1:48.0 | are doing to try and insulate their economies and financial systems from the US dollar, |
1:54.0 | and Western trade and financial sanctions. |
1:57.0 | If you want access to that part of the conversation and you're not already subscribed to Hidden Forces, |
2:02.0 | you can join our premium feed and listen to the second half of today's episode |
2:07.0 | by going to hiddenforces.io slash subscribe. |
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