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🗓️ 2 December 2025
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All those loyalty points you’re racking up at the grocery store, hotels and airlines benefit those companies way more than you. Samuel A.A. Levine is a senior fellow at U.C. Berkeley’s Center for Consumer Law & Economic Justice and he previously served as director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. He joins host Krys Boyd to discuss why newcomers to loyalty programs get priority over long-time customers, the privacy we trade off to get what we think are deals and why we might encounter higher prices anyway. His paper (co-authored by Stephanie T. Nguyen) “The Loyalty Trap: How Loyalty Programs Hook Us with Deals, Hack our Brains, and Hike Our Prices” was published by The Vanderbilt Policy Accelerator and U.C. Berkeley Center for Consumer Law and Economic Justice.
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| 1:35.7 | From KERA in Dallas, this is Think. I'm Chris Boyd. However they are organized as miles or points |
| 1:42.5 | or status, loyalty programs are set up like video games to maximize our engagement and discourage us from walking away for fear of losing out. |
| 1:51.8 | They help themselves to a whole lot of our personal information in the process. |
| 1:56.0 | And here's the kicker. Regardless of how they are marketed, many of them save the best deals for newcomers while they |
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| 2:06.5 | And my guest believes these are things we deserve to know. |
| 2:10.0 | Samuel A.A. Levine is a senior fellow at UC Berkeley's Center for Consumer Law and Economic Justice, |
| 2:16.1 | who previously served as director of the Federal Trade Commission's Bureau of Consumer Protection. |
| 2:21.1 | The Center for Consumer Law and Economic Justice, along with the Vanderbilt Policy Accelerator, produced the report we'll be talking about today. |
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